Who are our neighbors? Why are many people scared of Muslims? What do they believe? How could those terrorists claim they were Muslim?
Prejudice is born in ignorance. Acceptance is born in education.
“El prejuicio nace de la ignorancia mientras que la aceptación proviene de la educación”.
Muslims are just like you and I in the fact that they have families, love, eat, learn, work, study and live. If you want to know about plumbing ask a plumber and if you want to know what a Muslim believes ask one so I did.
Last night I went over to introduce myself to our new neighbor Osman and he explained that each of his children have 3 names so when you tell someone your name it also tells them the name of your father and your grandfather as well.He is from Africa and in his Country over 95% of the people are Muslim.
Osman plays soccer and is about 30 years old, I say about because he does not really know how old he is since his parents died when he was young and he does not have a birth certificate or anything.
Osman said they believe that Jesus Christ was a Prophet and not the son of God. He said they believe that Jesus will come again out of heaven at the Judgment day and they believe that many bad things will occur before that day as far as disasters.
Osman told me that many things are considered sin in his religion:
A. No taking anything into your body that will change how you think and some of these things include: Smoking, drinking, drugs etc… He said that Coffee is ok and so is Tea.
B. He said that Worshiping other Gods is the worst sin and then I believe he said taking of innocent life and then having sex outside of marriage and then abortion is also a bad sin. Osman told me that eating pork is also wrong and should not be done.
They pick their own leader or Imam and normally it is a Shake which is an older person that knows all about the religion and is very wise. Sometimes shakes are young as well. He said there is no ordination like a Priest etc….
The women meet in a different area in their Mosque and they take their kids for the festivals and take their older children around 6+ to the prayers and such. They also wash before worship or reading their Quran. (Koran)
Muhammad was a Merchant and an honest man and he did not like the things the people were doing and he would go up into some caves to be away from those things and one day God sent Gabriel to him and Gabriel said READ and Muhammad said I don’t know how so Gabriel read to him and this went on and Muhammad came and told his wife what the Angel Gabriel had read to him and he also taught the people and over 100 years later the believers got together and wrote the teachings down which became the Quran.
If I have gotten any of this wrong I welcome corrections. I spent about 2 hours with Osman last night and I have read many of these things in the past but it was good to hear it from a believer.
He spoke of two sets of Pillars that their faith is based on and what they need to believe in and do.
5 Pillars of Islam
1. Testimony of faith with a belief in only one true GOD
2. Prayer – They pray five times a day and it takes about 5 min each time. While I was with him his app from his phone went off and the verse came on for a call to prayer.
3. Zakat or charity. They give 2.5 % of their income away and there is another amount that is given as well. This is very important to them and they believe they will be rewarded for this after the judgement day.
5. The Pilgrimage to Makkah – only if one can afford to do this and still take care of your family. They get there and shave their head but they don’t have to shave their beards. It is a custom for the mean to grow beards when they can. They keep their mustaches shorter for purposes of cleanliness. They also do HAJJ while there which includes several activities. They try to make this trip at least once in their lifetime.
Then Osman spoke of the Six pillars of Faith “Basic Islamic Beliefs”
1. Belief in God (That he is all powerful and you should not worship anything or anyone else other than God)
2. Belief in Angels
3. Belief in God’s revealed books
4. Belief in the Prophets and messengers of God.
5. Belief in the day of Judgement
6. Belief in Al-Qadar: – This last one is best to have the whole explanation written out.
Muslims believe in Al-Qadar, which is Divine Predestination, but this belief in Divine Predestination does not mean that human beings do not have freewill. Rather, Muslims believe that God has given human beings freewill. This means that they can choose right or wrong and that they are responsible for their choices.
The belief in Divine Predestination includes belief in four things: 1) God knows everything. He knows what has happened and what will happen. 2) God has recorded all that has happened and all that will happen. 3) Whatever God wills to happen happens, and whatever He wills not to happen does not happen. 4) God is the Creator of everything.
Long ago I learned a lesson in life that I have tried to teach my children as well. In any religion there are good and bad people so you cannot judge the religion from just a few people in the church. In the Catholic Church you will find both good and bad and this would go for any other church as well. In any Group of people you can find both nice and mean people although some groups such as the Quakers may be more tolerant in some things than others. We need to be very careful about judging Muslims by what some bad people have done that claimed to be Muslim. Osman has 3 very cute kids and a beautiful wife. He has been in the US for 8 years and he speaks English quite well. His wife has a harder time with English and his children speak both English and Somali.
Immigration help – visit our site
<p>Even though Representative Sandstrom’s Immigration bill passed the house 2/18/11 overwhelmingly I feel the bill will cause a rift and will cause additional problems rather than solving them. Having the truth about the issues will really help people be reasonable and personally I don’t feel that the House or the Senate is educated enough on this issue to make decisions as they have recently made. Now we will need to brace for the consequences and deal with them.<p>
<p>At Sutherland Institute’s immigration debate on January 21, 2011, Paul Mero said, “A lack of legal status in the United States of America is not a crime, it’s a civil violation such as speeding.” He later said, “How can living here undocumented be evil when a lack of legal status isn’t even a crime?”<p>
<p>In response that same evening, Representative Stephen Sandstrom said, “It is not a civil violation to enter the United States illegally, it is a criminal misdemeanor subject to six months in jail and deportation…the civil violation is if you overstay a visa after lawful entry.”<p>
<p>So which is it? Who is correct? Are undocumented immigrants “criminals”?<p>
<p>In a way both of them are correct, what, how can that be? First Paul Mero is correct because in the US you are not punished or considered guilty of a crime unless your found guilty of that crime through evidence. The people that are here in the US that are undocumented have either overstayed their Visas or were not caught crossing the border. This puts this entire group of 11 million to 20 million people in the category of “Unlawful Presence” or as Paul stated a CIVIL infraction not criminal. In other countries people can be considered guilty without going to court yet in the US we follow the Constitution which gives rights to US Citizens and to some people chagrin rights to those that are not US Citizens.<p>
<p>Next Representative Sandstrom is correct that if you are caught entering the US without inspection it is a criminal misdemeanor yet none of these people that are here in Utah were caught therefore they are not considered guilty of that misdemeanor.<p>
<p>So both people are correct in their own way and if Representative Sandstrom would like to go sit on the border and watch people get caught he can wittiness the process and after I spoke with several lawyers about this I was enlightened and learned how the process works or in some cases does not work.<p>
<p>As a legal reminder, a civil infraction is a minor violation of law that is punishable only by a fine, such as a traffic or parking ticket. A misdemeanor is a crime, less serious than a felony, punishable by no more than one year in jail, such as petty theft, first-time drunk driving, or leaving the scene of an accident. A felony is a crime for which the punishment is a year or more in prison, even death. If you commit a “crime,” not a civil infraction, you are a “criminal,” by definition.<p>
<p>Representative Sandstrom made reference to “entering the United States illegally” and cited United States Code “8, 1325,” meaning precisely Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter II, Part VIII, Section 1325, “Improper entry by alien.” It reads, in part,<p>
<p>(a) Improper time or place; avoidance of examination or inspection; misrepresentation and concealment of facts <p>
<p>Any alien who<p>
<p>(1) enters or attempts to enter the United States at any time or place other than as designated by immigration officers, or<p>
<p>(2) eludes examination or inspection by immigration officers, or <p>
<p>(3) attempts to enter or obtains entry to the United States by a willfully false or misleading representation or the willful concealment of a material fact, shall, for the first commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18 or imprisoned not more than 6 months, or both, and, for a subsequent commission of any such offense, be fined under title 18, or imprisoned not more than 2 years, or both.<p>
<p>(b) Improper time or place; civil penalties<p>
<p>Any alien who is apprehended while entering (or attempting to enter) the United States at a time or place other than as designated by immigration officers shall be subject to a civil penalty of<p>
<p>(1) at least $50 and not more than $250 for each such entry (or attempted entry); or<p>
<p>(2) twice the amount specified in paragraph (1) in the case of an alien who has been previously subject to a civil penalty under this subsection.<p>
<p>Civil penalties under this subsection are in addition to, and not in lieu of, any criminal or other civil penalties that may be imposed.<p>
<p>This citation states that entering the United States is, indeed, a crime under Section 1325 (a) – a misdemeanor on first offense, a felony on second offense, and it’s a civil infraction under Section 1325 (b). In other words, it’s at least a civil infraction and no more than a misdemeanor on first offense.<p>
<p>Many times the Agents at the border do not process the people crossing with criminal misdemeanors but only the civil infraction under Section 1325 (b)<p>
<p>Interestingly, to Mr. Mero’s point, if we read on in the U.S.C., Title 8, Chapter 12, Subchapter II, Part VIII, Section 1324d, “Civil penalties for failure to depart,” it states,<p>
<p>(a) In general <p>
<p>Any alien subject to a final order of removal who—<p>
<p>(1) willfully fails or refuses to—<p>
<p>(A) depart from the United States pursuant to the order,<p>
<p>(B) make timely application in good faith for travel or other documents necessary for departure, or<p>
<p>(C) present for removal at the time and place required by the Attorney General; or<p>
<p>(2) conspires to or takes any action designed to prevent or hamper the alien’s departure pursuant to the order,<p>
<p>shall pay a civil penalty of not more than $500 to the Commissioner for each day the alien is in violation of this section.<p>
<p>In other words, a “lack of legal status,” or a failure to depart once told to leave, is a civil infraction for an undocumented immigrant.<p>
<p>The better question for all of us in Utah to ask may be this: Which, among these laws, is most relevant to Utah? Are Utah elected officials, community groups, businesses and citizens concerned more about an undocumented immigrant’s illegal entry anywhere into the United States or an undocumented immigrant’s lack of status while in Utah?<p>
<p>Of course, the answers to these questions could depend heavily on where you stand. If you believe that Utah’s state and local law enforcement should become federal immigration agents, you probably will focus on United States Code referring to “illegal entry” into the country. If this is the case you will need their personal information including their full names, birth dates, country of origin an proof they entered without inspection in order to get a warrant or deportation order processed. With the few ICE agents Utah has being overwhelmed with undocumented people that are committing crimes the reality that they will begin to process NON CRIMINAL cases as any type of priority is very low. Separating families and causing great trauma to children by taking their parents or brothers and sisters away from them all because of a Civil infraction is not a prudent step to take especially when law enforcement should be concentrating on law breakers instead.<p>
<p>Pointing out that the US Supreme Court ruled in 2009 that undocumented people using a social security number just to work may not be charged with fraud unless there is proof they were using the false ID or numbers in order to steal. Most of the undocumented people using false social security numbers do it solely so they can work and they have federal, state, med and FICA (Social Security) taken out of their checks that they will never see. In 2009 over 9 billion in social security was paid into the mismatched funds and most of that is attributed to undocumented people paying social security using made up numbers or the numbers belonging to others. The recent figures are even higher so loosing this social security money would also cause some unintended consequences as well and maybe that is why the US is turning a blind eye on this issue in some respects. <p>
They may not be turning a blind eye if you look at Obama’s recent deportations that exceed more than any other president and note that half of them were people without criminal records and that if they don’t get to 400,000 deportation they will loose the money allotted to the agency therefore they do go after many of the people that are easy targets even though they do separate families in the process.
<p>Illegal aliens using false social security numbers may not be charged with identity theft if they were only using the number in order to work.<p>
I say may because many states have laws about identity theft so those laws could also be enforced as well. Many of the states that have passed anti illegal immigration law targeting these people (Oklahoma, Texus, Alabama, Arizona etc….) have found that negative result such as 1 billion dollars of rotting crops in the fields last year have caused problems that people did not plan on especially with lost taxes, sales, loss in jobs and the list goes on.
<p>This is a site that clarifies illegal’s, criminal or civil offense.<p>
<p>On the other hand, if you are simply concerned with how undocumented immigrants affect Utah’s public safety, freedom, and economic prosperity, you probably will focus on the parts of the Code referring to a lack of status. Especially since we cannot produce evidence or proof of them crossing without inspection. The very fact that they are in the country without documents is not proof in and of itself. It may seem silly but that is the law and it has to be changed if you want to enforce it differently. <p>
<p>Either way, it’s important for all of us to understand that being an undocumented immigrant is far from evil in the eyes of the United States Code. There are those that would place machine guns on the border to shoot the people crossing and that reminds us of a not so long ago time when people were ordered to “Show me your papers”. <p>
Christie clarifies: ‘Illegal’ immigrants are in civil violation
By Kevin Coughlin
April 29, 2008, 12:03PM
Noah Addis/ The Star-LedgerU.S. Attorney Christopher Christie speaks at First United Methodist Church of Dover on Sunday
The office of U.S. Attorney Christopher Christie on Monday issued a statement addressing criticism of remarks he made regarding illegal immigration at a church forum in Dover Sunday.
In response to a question from an audience member, Christie said that immigrants are not committing a crime by being in the country illegally.
Monday, Christie said that while entering the country illegally is considered a federal misdemeanor, simply lacking legal immigration status is a civil violation.
“I can only enforce the laws that they give me,” Christie said at the forum sponsored by the Latino Leadership Alliance of New Jersey and the First United Methodist Church of Dover.
Christie’s comment drew criticism from Morristown Mayor and Democratic congressional candidate Donald C. Cresitello, as well as scores of comments on Internet message boards.
Critics called his statements incorrect, and indicative of a lax approach to immigration enforcement by the federal government.
Monday, Christie’s office is sued a written statement defending the comments, saying they accurately reflected federal law.
“He did not say, nor did he mean, that entering this country through any means other than the appropriate immigration channels is a lawful act,” the statement read. “It is not.”
The controversy has highlighted one of the most widely misunderstood aspects of immigration law.
Q: Christie said immigrants in the county illegally are not automatically committing a crime by their presence. Is that true?
A: Yes. “Illegal presence” as the offense is called, is not a violation of the U.S. criminal code. A person cannot be sent to prison for being here without authorization from immigration authorities. It is, however, a violation of civil immigration laws, for which the federal government can impose civil penalties, namely deportation.
Q: But he was later asked a hypothetical question about someone sneaking across the border and said that’s not a crime either. Is that true, too?
A: No. “Improper entry by an alien” as it is called, is a violation of Title 8 of the U.S. criminal code punishable by a fine of between $50 and $250 and/or a maximum of six months in jail.
It is considered difficult to prosecute because unless authorities catch someone in the act of crossing the border, it is easier to just deport them than spend the time and money needed to prove how they crossed the border. Even in border states, first-time offenders are rarely prosecuted because the court system would be inundated with millions of cases.
Q: So it’s a crime to enter the country illegally, but not a crime to be here illegally. How can you do one without the other?
A: It’s not hard, and millions of people have done it. People obtain legal visas to enter the U.S. for work, study or tourism and then simply remain in the coun try after the visa expires. Of the estimated 12 million illegal immigrants in the United States, studies show about 40 percent to 50 percent came here legally but are now illegal immigrants.
Well first I am not pro illegal immigration but many people look at it like this:
1. If you are caught crossing the border without inspection it is a Criminal Class B Misdemeanor and you are deported. The second time being deported could result in a felony charge.
2. If you are not caught crossing or if your visa expires then you are unlawfully present within the United States and that is a CIVIL infraction. Similar to not getting a speeding ticket (also civil) because you did not get caught. You would be guilty of speeding, but if you were not issued a citation when it happened you’re off the hook so to speak even though you were speeding.
Did anyone see them cross, well the evidence seems clear since they are here but the law does not work that way and we don’t call them illegal without first proving it through legal means. Normally in the USA you are innocent until proven guilty. So referring to a group of people that have not been charged, not been given a chance to explain anything is a concern. Some say that they don’t have rights, well they do, they don’t have all of the rights citizens have but they do have rights. We have seen in the news of several cases where legal residents and citizens have been caught up in immigration raids because agents assumed by where they were working, by their accents or inability to speak English made them guilty of a crime.
The illegal act committed in AZ does not transfer to Idaho etc.. even though it is a federal issue. No police department in the Nation will prosecute Federal Civil infractions..so the person can be picked up in border states easier than in the inner states since they normally are not stopped and questioned unless they have done something else that merits them being stopped or arrested. Since AZ tried to copy Fed law and make it a State crime as well they may run into additional issues they were not planning on such as the undocumented person asking for a jury trial which is what many lawyers were geared up for. Since they made a Federal Civil infraction into a State criminal one that is one of the unintended consequences that could follow.
3. It is up to the US to prove that the people came over illegally and I know it does not make much sense but someone that has no ID and is what most of us would call illegally here is simply Undocumented. They don’t have to tell the agents very much information but many do. The US lacks records on over 11 million possibly as high as 22 million people that are here without documents or born and brought over.
4. ICE cannot just show up at your door because you look like you might be undocumented, they need a warrant with your name on it or a deportation order with your name on it and in most cases they don’t have this information unless you have applied through USCIS and then they are going after the easy cases of people that are trying to go through the process legally.
5. Many people from Honduras or Guatemala will tell the Immigration agents that they are from Mexico so they don’t get shipped back to their countries making it harder to cross again.
6. So I do not argue that illegal immigration brings crime, drugs, human trafficking and other problems to the country although I do point out that the quoted statistics are often misquoted and misrepresented and that these people do pay property taxes since they pay rent and hence they do pay into the education systems, sales tax and many other taxes including over 11 billion a year into the mismatched social security tax which is a chunk of change. We as US Citizens take advantage of their cheap labor yet we don’t understand that prices for hotels, food, homes and businesses will rise when we deport them so we can’t have it both ways and morally there are problems with sending mothers and fathers that are supporting their families back to their countries and leaving the children here to be part of a foster care system. Deporting US Citizen children with their parents has also been done although it places the families and children in situations where the health and welfare of these children is placed into danger. Many other factors come into play in these situations especially since many of these towns where they are deported to only pay around $60 to $200 per month and the cost of living is much higher than that.
Give me your tired and your poor and those yearning to be free?
I hope this helps you understand how some people think….
This is a site that clarifies illegal’s, criminal or civil offense.
What don’t you understand about illegal it’s illegal. Well yes and no. It is illegal and criminal when they catch you crossing the border without permission. It is not criminal however if you make it over undetected, then it becomes “unlawful presence” which is only CIVIL not criminal.
Too many people don’t understand that law enforcement is limited as to what they can do because of these complications. Many lawyers and even law enforcement people do not fully understand the law in this respect.
Not to defend coming over illegally but you do need to think about the ramifications if we deport 20 million people that are part of our community.
1. What will happen to millions of landlords when their renters are deported? Who will bail them out? Where will that money come from without raising taxes?
2. Who will makeup the lost taxes that comes from property tax from these people?
3. What will happen to the social security fund if illegal aliens are not putting in over 11 million per year that they will never get back?
4. Who will end up paying to support over 4 million US Citizen children of the illegal aliens that are deported? Currently either family or the state takes custody of these children. After one raid on a factory in Utah 2 bus loads of children were put into the foster care system and it overloaded the systems capacity. Our systems are not set up to handle anywhere near the 4 million + children that will be involved.
5. Many countries charge US Citizens to live there. Guatemala charges $25 dollars every 3 months for US Citizens and in many towns the wages are only $60 per month which is about 1/10th of the cost of living so to take even $10 per month away from this amount could be making people go hungry. People make more in the cities but the cost of living is also higher as well. Learning what people are actually paying for things opens your eyes more than ever before. I sat down with several families in Guatemala in 2008 and 2010 to do just that. If they work on a banana plantation they can make $200 per month which is only 1/3 of the cost of living. This is why so many children quit school early so they can help their family pay the bills and put food on the table. My daughters good friend just did the same quitting school at the age of 15 even though she wanted to keep studying.
6. The buying force that illegal aliens have in this country is very large and to take that money away will cause major problems with the economy. The fact that they also send about 10 percent of their income out of the country to help their families is another form of humanitarian assistance that is privately funded. To say this hurts the country shows the lack of education since in macroeconomics we learn that sending dollars out of our country does the opposite of hurting the dollar but actually encourages trade in dollars outside our country making the dollar worth more.
7. Not everything about illegal aliens comes up peaches and cream. They do bring crime, human trafficking and drugs. They bring drugs because of our high demand and usage of drugs so that part is partially our fault as well. We need to clamp down on criminal activity and not just send them out of the country since they come right back again.
8. We need a solution that will not include sending 20 million community members out of the country. We need to fine them since that is what is appropriate for a CIVIL case and we need to put them on a road to becoming legal. I don’t say they should be put in the front of the line ahead of anyone that is applying legally because that too would be wrong.
9. Children of illegal aliens (undocumented) should be allowed to stay, many of them don’t even speak Spanish and have no memory of their country. Many of them have lived in the US their whole life and don’t know any other way. Separating them from their friends, schools and way of life is wrong, morally and just simply wrong every way you look at it. They had no choice in the matter and they are being punished for something they had no hand in.
www.larryloveutah.com then click immigration
WARNING: I put this warning on this material because it contains profanity. I personally try to avoid using such words and I encourage my children not to use these words and stress that those that do almost always end up making less money on average than those that don’t swear. Some would argue this position depending on your job. In our youth many times we swear to gain acceptance of our peers and later most of us realize how silly that really was. Many people swear because that is how they were brought up and that is their way of life and without it they may not be as powerful or as noticed or they may not fit in when they don’t swear.
Policemen, Firefighters and medical personal have a great need to understand Spanish and having an overall knowledge of the swear words will help you in your job. This product is an MP3 file and can be purchased at www.larryloveutah.com click on learn Spanish and the MP3 file is Spanish profanity.
Please visit our site to see many more handmade rosaries and necklaces
We have not been marketing these rosaries very actively yet. The quality is great, the rosaries are beautiful and we just took pictures of them and recently put them up on the web site at discounted prices. We hand pick the stones when we go to the gem shows and then we take time putting them together. This is how we figure the prices:
Cross $3 (Depends which one is used)
Center piece $2
Stones 53 for the prayers (five sets of 10 and 3 on the bottom) $8
Stone or metal or crystal main pieces – larger stones (6) $3
Metal spacers or other material 60+ $3
Crimps 3 – $1.50 (.50 cents each)
Special nylon covered multi-strand cable $1.50 (.75 per foot)
Just the materials for each rosaries come up to $22 dollars
It takes about 40 minutes to put a Rosary together and sometimes an hour. Many times it takes 15 or 20 minutes to design one so the average time spent on each is about 1 hour not including taking the picture and writing the description for the web site. Adding $15 dollars for labor the total price for a rosary comes up to $37 using quality materials.
Total price for each rosary should be $37 with materials and labor
When you view the rosaries at www.larryloveutah.com click on the picture of rosaries on the side of the page or click on additional products then rosaries.
Currently I am designing a special rosary for someone and I will present it to them as a gift. I have been debating the exact stones for quite some time because of who the person is and what they represent.
Several Churches in the State strive to help those in need including those with immigration concerns. The Catholic Church can be contacted for some assistance with forms and applications for immigration. They also have programs that teach English as a second language. Bishop Wester has been an advocate for Human rights and to keep families together.
Handmade Rosaries at the link below
http://www.larryloveutah.com (immigration assistance)
I bought a great LED flashlight at the fair last year and I have worn it out using it all the time and it finally broke. It was a $40 dollar flashlight.
I bought my daughter $60 dollar M-FLARE and the 2 D batteries lithium will run the light 200 hours on low or 90 hours on high, this is a great unit but a bit bulky. I loved it so much I got myself one and I keep it in my CERT kit.
5 weeks ago I ordered a flashlight from China and it is a 900 lumen flashlight that uses 2 of the 18650 batteries that are many times used for laptops. I have not gotten the charger for this yet and I will let you know how it works out. I paid $43 for this one and it included shipping.
The 18th of April the most recent Spanish CERT class graduated from a 7 week disaster preparation course that will help the community in the event of an emergency. In some areas of the City the Hispanic population is so dense that not having Spanish speaking emergency workers could really be a burden.
Students learned skills and practiced their abilities the following areas:
1. Fire suppression (small fires using fire extinguishers)
2. Cribbing (Apalancamiento) to lift heavy objects of people that are trapped.
3. Disaster Organization – How to set up a command center and begin making assignments and delegate.
4. First Aid – Stopping the bleeding, opening the airway and treating for shock. We focused on these major areas and also touched on burns and other aspects as well.
5. Additional class material on terrorism, disaster philology etc…
This picture only shows half the class, additional pictures will be posted on facebook. In 2009 We graduated the first Spanish CERT class in 10 years and we have been teaching classes ever since. John Flynt with Salt Lake City has been very helpful in getting these classes going and getting the Spanish manuals printed etc… Charlie Eckhart organizes and has also been rock solid in showing up, setting up and making sure it all comes together.
This is a real picture of people that I went to visit in 2008 and 2010 in Guatemala, you will see the rock sink and behind that is where they cook. When they don’t have a close family relation that is a US Citizen or resident the chances that they can even apply to come to the US legally are almost nothing. In this town they make about $60 per month unless they are lucky and work at the banana plantation and then they make $200 a month working 6 days a week. Having said that you need to understand that the cost of living there is about $650 per month and most people live way below the real cost of living. Many times young kids will drop out of school to add another income to the family budget. This happened to my daughters friend last year.
So if mom and dad are working that adds up to $120 or only 18% of the cost of living so it is no wonder one family member will come to the US illegally and end up making $10 per hour which is 25 times the money they could make back home so if they send $300 a month home the family can improve their situation several fold. I am not saying this is right or should be happening but this is reality. Many illegal immigrants bring crime into the country while the majority just want to work and send money back home.
I have interviewed many illegal immigrants and after speaking with them you learn so much about them. Understand that if they are caught while crossing the border they are deported and this is a crime, however if they are not caught and they make it over the border then the situation they find themselves in is “Unlawful Presence” which is not criminal but only a civil infraction. This is why the authorities are limited in what can be done. Now there are other factors as well. If we deport them all we will loose over 10 billion that they contribute to the mismatched social security fund each and every year, millions of landlords would loose renters, millions of children would loose parents, without the property tax that is being paid on those rentals billions of dollars in education money would be lost. These are unintended circumstances we don’t contemplate.
So I don’t justify it although I do understand it. We also need to be prepared to suffer the consequences of whatever we decide to do. Many states passed tough immigration laws and last year alone over 1 billion dollars in crops rotted in the fields. We need to seek solutions that don’t separate families of people that are not criminals.