Saykoshta Karate with Larry Love

Saykoshta Karate with Larry Love. Take a look at my Saykoshta Karate videos that I have put up on Youtube. Just type in Saykoshta and you should get the list of videos. I have been teaching for over 25 years. Mostly young kids classes and women’s classes. I have been teaching these classes for free to people that want to take classes but they can’t afford them. Most of our techniques are practical for older women, girls etc…Getting into advanced Karate is great when you have the ability and no limitations. When you have a disability or you get older you can adjust the movements to meet your abilities.

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Alarm information from your monitoring station

Recently a store director who works at a grocery store called me up and asked me what a PIV tamper was because their store had received a call from the central station telling them that their PIV was in trouble and they asked the central station at that time what is a PIV and the dispatcher did not know. So in this blog I thought I would explain a few of the items that are tied to a fire alarm system that you may not be aware of and I will try to keep it simple and gear it more toward the grocery manager who really does not need an in depth lesson on Fire Alarm but may want to have a basic understanding of some of these items.

PIV Valve – Post Indicator Valve – This valve can turn off the water to the building and if someone does that then an electronic signal is sent to the central station saying “Hey your water just got shut off” so if there is a fire you need to know the sprinkler system will not work.

Post Indicator Valve

This valve can shut the water off to a building from the outside. (Normally)

TAMPER SWITCH – This is the electronic portion that is tied to a valve or wheel that shuts off the water to a sprinkler system. Not all of them look the same but this is a good example. This is also serious if your valve is shut off that means the sprinkling system that puts fires out will not function. A trouble on your fire alarm system should be taken seriously.

Detects when the water is shut off to the sprinking system

FLOW SWITCH – This switch detects when WATER is flowing through the sprinkler lines. This normally means there is a fire and the sprinklers have been activated and it also means you have a big mess. If the switch is faulty then it can activate as well. You will see from this cross cut photo that there is a paddle that moves in the direction of the water. This is why it is so important to have your sprinkling system and your fire system Green tagged every year to make sure all of these are functioning as they should. If this goes into Alarm the Fire Department is dispatched.

Cross cut view of a flow switch

This switch detects when water is flowing through the pipes. The Fire Department will be dispatched when a flow is activated.

When water flows through the pipes this switch sends a signal to the fire panel

DUCT DETECTOR – When the air handler units used for moving air through a building are over 2000cfm then they are required to have DUCT DETECTORS installed and these are smoke detector meant to tie to the system and shut down the air handler for several reasons. One is so the unit will not spread smoke where it should not and if a belt began to burn or a motor began to burn up the the duct detector normally is wired to shut down the air handling unit. Sometimes the duct detector just shuts down that one unit and other times the requirements make it so it will shut down all the other units. When the ducts get dirty then these smoke detectors will go into trouble and the housing, smoke, tubes and ducts should be cleaned at that time. If you just clean the smoke and then turn the unit back on then if the ducts are dirty they just fill the smoke detector back up with dust and the unit could go into trouble again.

Duct detectors normally shut the air handlers down when there is a problem

Many times duct detectors are tied into the fire alarm and the system will alert you when they need to be cleaned. If you ignore that alert on a trouble then the next signal may be an alarm.

We won’t go over the obvious items such as smoke detectors, Emergency pull stations and temp sensors in this message although we can go over some of those other things in a future blog.

We understand that managers of buildings are busy and many times don’t really want to understand the system but just want the problems taken care of. A bit of forethought can help avoid more costly repairs so learning the basics can help you in the long run. Please let me know when you have questions or if I did not clarify any of these items enough. It is always best to use professionals to service, clean and repair Fire Alarms and Sprinkler systems. Contact Larry Love at 801 428 1384 company web site is

Alarm battery issues

BATTERY INFORMATION FOR ALARM SYSTEMS: When the AC power (building power) goes out for any reason the Fire Alarm or Security batteries may become drained and show a low battery message on the keypad/annunciator and then normally charge back
up within 48 hours. If they do not charge back up then your charging circuit may be bad. You can test this by putting a meter on DC volts and testing the two wires that go from the panel to the battery. These are normally RED and BLACK and most panels will show that the charging circuit is sending about 13.5 volts to the batteries. If you have 0 on this then there is a problem. It is best to have a professional do these things because if you mix up the wires you could cause problems that may require you to have to purchase new equipment. Some panels take in AC voltage from the transformer and some take in DC volts from the transformer so you have to know before hand.

alarm batteries

not all batteries are created equal

If the power is out too long or if the batteries drop below 12 Volts sometimes they won’t charge backup and you need to install new batteries. Normally these batteries last 3 to 5 years unless they are in an area with power bumps or issues, in that case you may need to replace your batteries more frequently or put the system on a UPS (Uninterrupted power supply- another battery backup or generator)

Most of the Alarm batteries are the 12 volt sealed gel cell sometimes they are the 7, 7.5, 8, 8.5 amp hour. Some panels have larger 18 amp hour batteries. Batteries & alarm components are somewhat like cars, they come in different qualities depending on the price so not all 7 amp hour batteries are the same and it also depends how long they have been on the shelf as to how long they will end up working for you. The higher quality batteries are made much better and do cost a bit more so if you end up paying $20 for a battery it may not be the same quality as the $30 dollar battery.

Testing batteries is not always cut and dried because using a normal VDC meter will tell you the volts but it will not test the load and many times a battery can test at 12 volts and still be bad. It is best to replace the batteries every 3 to 5 years. Just because they are still working after 6 years does not mean they will function when the power goes out and you really need the fire alarm to notify occupants to evacuate.

The batteries we are talking about here are not the batteries inside the residential smoke detectors. These batteries are quite large about 4 inches in depth, 4 inches high and 7 inches long. The 18 amp hour batteries are much larger than that. These batteries are normally found in a metal enclosure in an electrical room. The cans are normally locked so having your alarm contractor service these items normally is your best bet.

Many Fire Marshals will require a 24 hour battery test on your Fire Alarm Systems and if they don’t the alarm contractor is supposed to do it. What you do is turn the AC (building power) off to the main Fire Alarm panel 24 hours before your test and the annunciator should indicate that the power has been turned off. The next day you should set the alarm off and allow the horn/strobe noise and light makers to be active for 5 minutes and if they all function the full 5 minutes then you pass your 24 hour battery test. If they do not pass then there is a good chance you will need larger batteries or that you might need to replace the batteries if they are old. Your alarm contractor will most likely do the batteries calculations before the test to make sure he or she has enough amp hours to handle all the appliances on the circuits.

Larry the author has been with American Security & Fire, Inc. in Salt Lake City 1998 to 2014 and is now with Peak Alarm 801 428 1384

Tow the line politically

voting straight party

I received a call from one of the local republican chairmen last night thanking me for being a delegate. The topic came up about voting and I told him that I had not voted a straight ticket and he expressed displeasure that some people in the party are turncoats. I explained that I vote for the person not just the party and that I had researched the candidates and in the cases where I voted for other candidates from other parties I felt they were the better choice for the community. I explained to him that I had attended local debates and met the candidates and I had even had the chance to sit down and discuss issues with them as well. I also told him that I felt bad that the republican party had moved away from some of the family values in the platform. I know that not all of the republicans have moved away from these values although when you include the right wing extremists in the party you can actually feel the hate for the undocumented and gays. I have a delegate a few times now and we had a scout group that attended the conventions with their leaders and those scouts actually told us they did not like the Republican convention because of the hateful things they heard while in attendance. This is sad. Republicans typically seem more religious in some areas although by attending recent conventions the non christian redoric is blatant and disappointing. Personally the extreemists whether left or right seem to have issues working with each other on reasonable solutions.

What is the difference between UL listed approved or accepted?

What is the difference between UL listed, approved and accepted?

Learn the difference in terms LISTED, APPROVED and ACCEPTED. If you have feedback or additional information we appreciate corrections and additions.

1. A device is UL APPROVED when UL certifies that the device when used according to manufacturers instructions is safe.

That is why the manufacturers instructions exhort us not to use the hair dryer in the shower. In addition to the instructions, the dryer manufacturers were required to install GFI on the power cord in case THE CUSTOMER DID NOT PAY ATTENTION TO THE MANUFACTURERS INSTRUCTIONS. (Manufacturers instruction sheets are PART OF the listing…)

2. A device is UL LISTED when it has been included in a LIST of items that are acceptable to UL for a SPECIFIC PURPOSE.

(Ul will classify alarm panels as to their LISTED USE as Commercial or Residential, Fire or Burglary. UL also lists the devices that may be INTERCONNECTED with the LISTED devices in a system. For example:

Understanding complicated UL words

A Honeywell Vista 21IP panel is UL LISTED for Residential BURG or FIRE but only for COMMERCIAL BURG.

BOSCH PIR detectors are LISTED for the purpose of BURGLARY DETECTION. SYSTEM SENSOR smoke detectors are LISTED for the purpose of residential or commercial FIRE DETECTION with a LIST of panels.. UL has LISTED The Honeywell Vista 128FB for COMBINATION BURGLARY and FIRE in COMMERCIAL installations.

3. ACCEPTED means that the device has been ACCEPTED for the purpose for which it was MANUFACTURED.

UL has LISTED the vista 128FB for use in Residential or commercial BURGLARY AND FIRE SYSTEMS.

NYC Fire Marshals office REFUSES to accept combination panels.
California Fire Marshals ACCEPTED the combination panels. So different AHJ “Authorities having Jurisdiction” can accept or reject these type of things.