Smoke Alarms verses Smoke Detectors

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1. Often a new home will come with 120 Volt Smoke alarms with 9V battery backup and normally these are installed in the bedrooms and just outside each bedroom. These smoke alarms do not report to a central station and do not dispatch the fire department when activated.

2. New smoke alarms that have a battery life of 10 years can be purchased and these smoke alarms are made just to wake you up. These do not report to a central station. These smoke alarms normally do not interconnect and allow other smoke alarms to sound simultaneously.

3. Security system wireless or hardwired smoke detectors that tie to your alarm panel often are installed in addition to the ones listed above since they report to a central station and the fire department can be dispatched. When you have system detectors they can wake you up and they also report to the central station even when your not home so the fire department can be dispatched in the event of a fire.

4. For new construction it is recommended to install system smoke detectors in the bedrooms and outside the bedrooms to meet fire code so you can avoid having 2 or 3 different types of smoke alarms or detectors. With system detectors you only change out the large battery or batteries at the panel location not at each smoke detector for hardwired detectors.

5. Quite often your insurance company will request that system detectors be installed and if your home has fire sprinklers, insurance will also want the flow switch monitored. Quite often we can do this with a wireless system.

6. When dealing with existing homes often we will install a DMP wireless option with UL listed wireless smoke detectors. This allows us to give you the protection without the high cost of drilling or installing wiremold in an existing home. DMP high power wireless receivers are also listed for commercial fire alarm and you can install wireless pull stations, smoke detectors and other devices after a building is built.

7. Main panel batteries for system smoke detectors are normally changed every 3 to 5 years and with the wireless system smoke detectors often they will last 5-10 years depending on the batteries and model number. For the 120V smokes with 9V backup it is recommended to change the batteries every 6 months.

8. In our high altitude here in Utah it is best to use photoelectric detectors rather than ION since they work better in this environment.

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Larry has over 20 years in the Fire Alarm industry, he has served on a State Fire Marshal committee, is NICET II Fire Alarm certified and is a Master Fire Alarm Tech with the State Fire Marshal’s office. Larry welcomes suggestions and corrections. This article is meant as a short informative article and not all inclusive when concerning smoke alarms and smoke detectors.

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Peak Alarm has been in business since 1969 although they understand that we can improve in several areas. Ongoing training is being held in order to make changes where needed. Peak Alarm appreciates all of it’s customers.

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Intrusion technology now allows you to remotely arm, disarm, control temperature, lighting, locks, overhead doors, set up special notifications for water, humidity sensors and much more.

Understanding the difference between residential and commercial systems is very important as well as the pros and cons when installing wireless verses hardwired systems.

Looking for the most inexpensive system is not prudent like looking for the cheapest equipment for mountain climbing or a good buy on a parachute. It is wise to look for a company that has the experience, is trained and has the appropriate staff to handle your project.

Peak is a locally family owned company. Peak Alarm has specialized sales people that have experience in the field that you need whether it be access control, cameras, fire alarm or intrusion.

Peak Alarm normally is not the lowest bidder although we have been in business since 1969, employee over 300 locals, have offices in Utah and Idaho, have a UL listed Central Station, we have a full service Guard and Patrol Division, we have a full service alarm division for commercial and residential installations.

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Telling someone you got a deal on a parachute or actually looking for the least expensive one you can find is not prudent nor is looking for the least expensive security system

Call Larry Love (801) 428 1384 Larry@peakalarm.com for a deal and quality security, fire alarms, access control and camera systems in Utah and Idaho.

You get what you pay for. You can have your alarm system monitored for a very low cost from an out of state computer system or you can do it professionally.

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MIRCOM addressable fire alarm solutions class A or B wiring

FX-350 comes in 60, 126 or 378 point models which will be great for small to medium applications

FX-3500 up to 954 points

FX-2000 Flexnet – Networkable when you need over 1000 points

These panels can be ordered and configured for mass notification voice evaculation (See QX-5000)

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Electric Strike locks

Fail Secure Electric Door Strikes will stay locked when the power goes out.

Fail Safe Electric Door Strikes will unlock when the power goes out.

Continuous Duty Electric strikes will last longer than typical strikes and are often used on doors that will be unlocked during certain hours and lock on a timer or doors that are being accessed and used all the time. If they are energized for several hours a day as unlocked you need continuous duty strikes and they do cost more but will last longer.

Strikes have moving parts so they will wear out faster than a magnetic lock but when maglocks are used they have to a a request to exit motion or button or both.

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Security Monitoring costs explained

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Typically Monitoring via analog phone lines costs about $25 to $35 per month using a UL listed Professional licensed Monitoring Central Station

For Security you can add $15 for arm/disarm remotely using a cellular communicator

Typical monitoring for Fire Alarm with a High Supervision cellular is $48 per month

When you monitor your Fire Alarm using 2 analog phone lines the cost is $25 to $35 per month but keep in mind often the analog lines cost over $40 each

Radio Monitoring for Security or Fire Alarm is about $45 per month and is very reliable. You can’t do remote arm/disarm with Radio monitoring

In Salt Lake City we only add $10 per month for alarm response where a marked security car with an uniformed guard responds to the alarm.
You get up to for alarm responses per year for that amount. If you want the guard to enter the home or business the cost is $20 per month which is called Key response

There are many other services such as openings and closings, reports that show early to open or late to close and Peak also is licensed to install UL2050 High Security installations and bank and vault.

Elevator Monitoring for having a live person answer the elevator phone is $20 per month with a discount for multiple elevators

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Know what your buying because often it looks like one thing and you get another. Professional Monitoring stations especially ones that are UL listed and 5 diamond certified like Peak Alarm provide a much different service than computer monitoring or the lowest cost monitoring you can get off the internet. Peak Alarm is a local company that has been in business since 1969.

How Access Control Pricing is determined

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This egg is wrapped in plastic so it looks good until you open it and what is on the inside often is determined by price, quality and features and low bidders often have issues.

Recently I bid out a project with 26 doors of access control with readers and locks that allow you to delete access or limit access of when people can get into the building and at what times or days. I have not included every aspect of pricing access control systems because not only would it be a longer article but it would be harder to read and understand.

My bid was $54,000 dollars the low bidder came in at $30,000 with the next lowest bid at $36,000 dollars. When I found out that the other bidders were so much lower I sat down with my manager and we went over the pricing point by point to see if I had really messed up the estimate and what we found was that we had not, it was done properly. It remains to be seen although what will most likely occur is that the winning bidder who was chosen solely on price will either put in inferior equipment or seek out change orders. A similar thing recently happened with a fire alarm bid and the fire marshal told us the winning bidder was seeking a $50,000 dollar change order.

Normally on access control we tell people that an access door costs around $1,800 to $2,200 per door depending on the distance and the door type. In this bid the customer had specified a $4,500 dollar double sided color card printer so that put us around $50,000 and the $30,000 bid around $25,000 or half of the cost. I highly doubt they were doing it out of the goodness of their heart because at that price it was under the our actual cost without any profit. I understood that my cost would be about $3,000 high because I had to add extra money for overtime since we are so busy and to meet their deadline of the end of June we needed to rearrange our schedule.

Here are some of the factors of an access control system:

1. Special composite access control cable over 900 dollars per 1000 feet so if you have 5 doors at 200 feet you will need 1 roll for every 5 doors. 26 doors came out to 4 rolls with the distances which came to almost $4,000 just for cable without labor.

2. 26 Readers which happened to be Iclass readers meeting the new government requirements $144 each without labor or $3,744 for 26.

3. Locks – maglocks don’t have moving parts so they last longer than electronic strikes which release and allow free egress but maglocks also require that you tie the system into the fire alarm and add a request to exit motion and or request to exit button. But average cost per lock is around $250 dollars each or in this case 25 times $250 or $6,250 without labor. One of the readers will tie to the elevator so there was one without a lock.

4. Power Supplies and Controllers also have to be added and this is the brains of the system. Per door this normally runs about $500 including the power supplies and controllers excluding the computer. So $13,000 but there is an additional cost for elevator control. There are systems where the controllers and power supplies run around $200 per door so this figure could be as low as $5,200 but keep in mind that you get what you pay for in the long run and a generic phone that costs you $100 is not the same as a $700 dollar phone and the same applies to this and when buying at $50 dollar camera as to compared with a $300 dollar camera. Features and quality will determine the price as well as brand.

5. Now here comes the tricky part, several of the doors required special wiremold and or conduit in order to get cable to those doors, when you have drop tile and the access is easy the price is less, when we have to drill through walls and add conduit and fire caulk the price is more and these specialized installations add price to the labor and materials.

6. We had 100 iclass double sided (printable) which run around $8 per card so $800 extra

7. Double sided Fargo printer with ribbon and cleaning kit $4,000-$4,500 keep in mind that it does not come with a cleaning kit or ribbon and most likely the low bidders bid out a generic without ribbon or an introductory printer that will only do a few cards.

8. With other items such as the tie in to the fire alarm, a release button at the reception desk for the front door, a network switch, CAT5 for network, penetrations through walls and a special reader with keypad for the medical room the cost increased. The labor cost normally on bid jobs is a bit less then the commercial rates which are around $130-$140 per hour for specialized techs but assuming the labor rate was around $80 dollars per hour and assuming that each door took 7-8 hours each you are looking at over 200 hours and this is a Bacon Davis project with increased costs but assuming these factors the labor cost on this job would be around $16,000 on the low end and around $22,000 on the high end.

9. Adding up these basic costs comes to over $48,000 dollars and that is using the lower end labor rate of $16,000 and our price was $54,000 for a professional project done right without change orders being put through like many companies do. If they used the less expensive controllers and power supplies you could shave it down from 48,000 to just over $40,000 and the low bidder was at $30,000 which means they will have to practically give the project away without any markup so they will have to look for ways to cut corners which is what happens on these big projects when they are determined using low bidders. Often the low bid companies will bid so low that they cannot finish the project and the contractor has to hire someone else and often these type of businesses go out of business in the first few years. Peak Alarm has been in business for over 49 years because we do thing right. We are not often the low bid on projects like this and our customers understand that they need to pay a bit more to not only get quality but to avoid ongoing issues with their systems if they buy cheap equipment.

10. You get what you pay for and low bidders often have forgot things so they cut corners. There is no free lunch so review your bids and have a professional company with a good reputation do the work. Peak Alarm has an A+ rating with the Better Business Bureau and very few complaints online when compared with other companies.

11. Peak Alarm is the only company in Utah with a UL listed Central Station, a full AV division, a full guard and patrol division as well as a full service alarm company. We even have a CAD and design department that is certified to submit fire marshal drawings for your commercial projects. Peak hires 300 local people at their 4 offices and we are a family owned company.

Peak Alarm is hiring so if you have experience in Sales or other areas we would love to have you come by and apply. We are currently scheduled out about 6 weeks on commercial projects although we can get residential projects done much sooner.

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Contact Larry Love at Peak Alarm (801) 428 1384 or cell (801) 898 6003 Larry@peakalarm.com with questions or corrections to this post.

Gas Detectors by Peak Alarm

Gas Detectors

Call Larry Love (801) 428 1384 Larry@peakalarm.com www.peakalarm.com for pricing for any type of gas, smoke or flame detectors

To protect life and property there are several different kinds of detectors, Smoke detectors both beam and spot and they come in different flavors such as ION or photoelectric or even multicriteria.

Carbon Monoxide CO detectors – Known as the silent killer which is the leading cause of accidental poisening (See AMA) Caused by fuels not burning completely.
Carbon Dioxide CO2 detectors – also oderless and very dangerous
Nitrogen Dioxide NO2 detectors – by project of burning bydrocarbons
Natural gas detectors

Example some systems are set up in a garage area to detect gas and then turn on large fans to evacuate the gas making it safe to breath inside again. Call for quote.

Getting alarm bids and pricing in Utah

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Contact Larry Love (801) 428 1384 Larry@peakalarm.com www.peakalarm.com for suggestions, corrections or information about pricing and bids.

In order to get bids for an alarm system in Utah it will be prudent to keep these things in mind:

1. Get a drawing done so all bidders are bidding the same locations and equipment. Get this drawing done even if it is hand drawn so all bidders are bidding the same work.
2. Put a clear scope of work together so all companies will know exactly what needs to be done.
3. Avoid equipment brands that only have one dealer in the State because if they win the bid and install that equipment you are stuck with that for service and sales of equipment.
4. Check and see if any codes apply for your system or special licensing that may be needed.
5. Compare apples to apples since a commercial security system is different that a residential system.
6. Example adding a residential smoke detector to your security system for a home is fine but for a business is not.
7. Insist on sitting down with the alarm representative and asking questions.
8. It is best to have the same company install the system that will monitor the system if possible to you can avoid 3rd party services as much as possible.
9. Peak Alarm can provide the CAD drawings, design, alarm installation, inspections, monitoring and even Guard response in Salt Lake all from one company.

10. Get pricing for monitoring as well as any additional services like guard response or if you need web access or openings and closings to know when your alarm system is being armed and disarmed and by whom. We had a tanning salon that we were monitoring and I called the owner after reviewing his opening and closing reports and asked him if it was normally for employees to come in at 3AM and he said no why? I explained and he found out employees were bringing their friends in to tan early in the morning.

11. Ask the Alarm Company to price the least expensive system as well as a system with quality equipment and ask what the difference is in the higher end equipment so you can decide what is best for your situation.

12. Determine if any other work needs to be done like high voltage electrical outlets and be clear about who will pay for this so it will be included. Normally alarm companies only do low voltage work but they can hire an electrical contractor to do the high voltage if needed or the owner can take care of that.