Debate both sides logically and emotionally

They have to be planted, grown, picked, packed, shipped and sold.

They have to be planted, grown, picked, packed, shipped and sold.

Often we make decisions based on several factors including logic, facts, our own opinions, the opinions of others, personal experience, how we feel and our emotions. We tend to make these types of decisions for voting, church, jobs and life. As much as we would like to think that we make logical decisions often we end up using our gut feelings to make important decisions. Sometimes this is good and sometimes it is not so good.

Trying to convince someone that they are on the wrong path as far as religion goes is difficult because they may have been in a church or group of people with years or maybe their parents were part of a church before they were even born so it is more of a culture thing than religion. You can’t argue faith based commitments.

A friend of mine told me that they ended up voting for a certain person just because they did not feel good about the other person and it had nothing to do with facts or their voting track record or the issues. The same applies to religion and our personal purchases. It may be better if we did things like SPOCK from Star Trek but it does not work out that way.

I work at a large Alarm company (Peak Alarm) and we are the only company that has a full Guard/Patrol and a Local UL listed Central Station in Utah and there are several other positive aspects about this company as far as them being insured, licensed, factory trained and the list goes on but if your neighbor heard of a negative experience regarding Peak Alarm then logic gets thrown out the window. I know of two such negative experiences that I read on the Internet about Peak Alarm and one of them was posted on several web sites so we investigated and found that this person did not complain to the Better Business Bureau because I assume they did not want both sides investigated. This person had not paid their bill and Peak tried to collect and when accounting did not get a payment plan set up they sent it to collections and the person then got upset.

Another instance of a negative comment was about fire code. The customer wanted Peak Alarm to do the work without contacting the fire marshal and as per Utah and National code for commercial work we are required to notify the local fire marshal and get approval for the work. This customer felt that Peak Alarm through them under the bus and yet we are required to notify the AHJ Fire Marshal. So just these two negative experiences can pass by word of mouth to many other people which can cause people to ignore the real figures and facts about Peak Alarm and go with someone else because they did not study out the information and find out the real truth. One of our competitors has over 3000 complaints in the last year compared with 3 complaints that have been filed against Peak Alarm Better Business Bureau web site

Our management team has read all the negative feedback and used it to put an action plan in place to make Peak Alarm better. Changes were made in our accounting department and we changed who we used to do collections because apparently they were not the nicest people in the world when calling to make the collections. We have given training to all of our employees and we do so on an ongoing basis. Peak overall is a great company with four offices, a Guard/Patrol division, central Station for monitoring, alarm division, AV division and not only are all of our employees licensed but they also go through the FBI background check and if they cannot pass it they lose their job at Peak Alarm.

Our average monthly monitoring rate with interactive services to arm and disarm remotely (We call it Elite control) starts right around $46 dollars a month and most of our competitors start around $49 and go up from there. We can compete well with guard services because you can contract directly with us rather than paying your alarm company who would hire a guard company so we can be competitive in pricing.

Call Larry Love (801) 428 1384 Peak Alarm web site ask for Larry Love Larry is certified with the State Fire Marshal’s office as a Master Fire Alarm Tech Level 3 and also Larry is NICET II Certified in Fire Alarm, he is an AXIS Certified Camera Professional and Certified in Access Control Systems and is Certified to design UL2050 High Security Systems such as Government SCIFs.

LULAC Utah Press release applauds Peruvian producer

Press release: May 4, 2016

Peruvian produces a musical about Jewish people in English

The Mission of the League of United Latin American Citizens is to advance the economic condition, educational attainment, political influence, housing, health and civil rights of the Hispanic population of the United States.

As the Utah State director of LULAC, I would like to recognize Andres Paredes, a native born Peruvian, as an example of an individual who is living the principles LULAC promotes. Some of his outstanding accomplishments include graduate of the University of Utah with a bachelors in biology, fourth year medical student, commissioner on the Salt Lake City planning commission, and author/composer of the recent musical production, “The Prodigal Son,” a musical that will be presented in the Salt Lake City Conference Center Theater on May 12, 13 and 14, 2016. He is an example to all of us of what can be obtained through education and hard work. LULAC Utah congratulates Andres on his debut with his first professional musical production.

Larry Love
Utah LULAC State Director


Noticias Mayo 4, 2016

Peruano produjo un musical de judíos en inglés.

La Misión de la Liga de Ciudadanos Latinoamericanos Unidos (LULAC) es mejorar la situación económica, los logros educativos, la influencia política, vivienda, la salud y los derechos civiles de la población hispana de los Estados Unidos.

Como el director de LULAC del estado de Utah, me gustaría reconocer a Andrés Paredes, un nativo del Perú, como un ejemplo de un individuo que está viviendo los principios que LULAC promueve. Algunos de sus logros sobresalientes incluyen graduado de la Universidad de Utah, con una licenciatura en biología, estudiante de cuarto año de medicina, comisionado de la Comisión de Planificación de Salt Lake City, y autor / compositor de la reciente producción musical, “El Hijo Pródigo”, un musical que será presentado en el edificio de la Conferencias de Salt Lake City el 12 de mayo, 13 y 14, 2016. Es un ejemplo para todos nosotros de lo que se puede obtener a través de la educación y el trabajo. LULAC Utah felicita a Andrés en su debut con su producción musical.

Larry Love
Director Estatal de Utah

Tickets for The Prodigal Son by Andres Paredes

The Prodigal Son from 2013 produced by Andres Paredes

The Prodigal Son from 2013 produced by Andres Paredes

Letter to UTAH LULAC members

February 12, 2016

My fellow LULAC members,

I would like to express my appreciation to all of the Utah members of LULAC and tell you how excited I am to be in the position of State Director for 2016. This will be an amazing year for Utah as we continue to work for the progress and growth of Latinos. Last year Utah held the 86th LULAC national convention, we opened our home to the nation. This year our members will attend the 87th National Convention in Washington D.C. where Latino leaders will come together and be instrumental in helping our nation with several aspects of what we are trying to accomplish in our community.

As State Deputy Director I immediately took on the State Director’s responsibilities when Salvador Lazalde recently stepped down due to other community service commitments. At our regularly scheduled meeting on January 27th, 2016, we had a quorum and voted to accept Larry Love as the new State Director. Larry has appointed as Deputy Director Antonella Packard and Mario Organista as our board secretary. We had a very productive meeting and we are all looking forward to this New Year.

I would like to thank Salvador for all of his service. I appreciate the training that he provided to me and I would like to let you know that Salvador said he will continue as an active member of his local LULAC council.

I am sure you are already aware of the urgency and need to recharter our councils and pay our State and National dues before February 28th 2016. Please contact all the members in your council so we can make sure we have everyone paid up before the end of the month. In order to have voting rights for May, membership dues need to be paid in full.

State Director: Larry Love
Phone: 801 898 6003

Deputy Director: Antonella Packard
Phone: 801 427 4242
Email (Appointed 2/1/16)

State Treasurer: Sergio Ramirez
Phone: 801 671 2140

Deputy Directors of:
Elderly: Manuel Aguilar, Phone: 801 688 2081 Email:
Women’s Activities: Kelly Arollo, Phone: 801 347 3308 Email:
Young Adults: Luis Banos, Phone: 801 694 6932 Phone:
Youth: Joel Lehi Organista, Phone: 801 906 9679, email:
State Secretary: Mario Organista Jr. (Appointed 1/27/16)
State Legal Advisor: Bryan Robinson –
State Parliamentarian: Pending
State Chaplain: Keith Atkinson, 801 240 8094,
Publicity: Pending


Larry G. Love
State Director
366 South Emery Street
SLC, UTAH 84104
(801) 898 6003


Queridos miembros de LULAC,

Quisiera expresar mi gratitud a todos los miembros de LULAC y decirles que estoy entusiasmado para servirles este 2016. Vamos a tener mucho éxito cuando trabajemos por el progreso de los Latinos. El año pasado tuvimos la conferencia de LULAC celebrando el 86 aniversario y este 2016 la convención va ser en Washington D.C. donde líderes Hispanos vamos a reunirnos para ayudar con muchos asuntos de la comunidad Hispana.

Como sub director yo inmediatamente tome las responsabilidades de director cuando Salvador Lazalde decidió renunciar porque el tiene otras responsabilidades y cargos con la comunidad. En la reunión normal de Enero 27, 2016 tuvimos el quórum suficiente según la constitución para hacer negocio y un voto para aceptar Larry Love como director y paso el voto. Larry como el nuevo director asigno Antonella Packard como sub directora y Mario Organista como secretario. Tuvimos una reunión muy productiva y todos estamos animados para el resto de 2016.

Me gustaría agradecer Salvador por todo su servicio y aprecio el entrenamiento y todo que aprendí de el y quiero decirles que Salvador me informo que el todavía va a continuar siendo activo en su concilio local de LULAC.

Estoy seguro que ustedes ya saben que hay una urgencia de registrar nuestros concilios y pagar el dinero al Nacional y también del estado para mantener nuestro derecho para votar en Mayo y tenemos que pagar por completo antes de 28 de Febrero 2016.

Director del estado: Larry Love
Phone: 801 898 6003
Email Secondary

Sub directora: Antonella Packard
Phone: 801 427 4242
Email (Appointed 2/1/16)

Tesorero del estado: Sergio Ramirez
Phone: 801 671 2140

Sub directores de:
Ancianos: Manuel Aguilar, Phone: 801 688 2081 Email:
Mujeres: Kelly Arollo, Phone: 801 347 3308 Email:
Jovenes adultos: Luis Banos, Phone: 801 694 6932 Phone:
Jovenes: Joel Lehi Organista, Phone: 801 906 9679, email:
Sectretario: Mario Organista Jr. (Appointed 1/27/16)
Asesor legal: Bryan Robinson –
State Parliamentarian: Pending
State Chaplain: Keith Atkinson, 801 240 8094,
Publicidad: Pending


Larry G. Love
Director del estado de Utah
366 South Emery Street
SLC, UTAH 84104
(801) 898 6003

Charlene Albarran for congress

statue of liberty

Last night I was able to meet Charlene Albarran and her husband. Charlene was very interested in LULAC and as State Director I took some time to give her an overview of what LULAC does. Charlene has a very impressive track record. She has spent several years living in Mexico and has a very unique perspective on many issues.

As a side note I need to make sure I am very clear that LULAC is a nonpartisan organization. LULAC does not support any particular political party although we encourage our members to learn all they can about the political candidates and vote for who they feel is the very best person. LULAC is the (League of United Latin American Citizens) The Mission of the League of United Latin American Citizens is to advance the economic condition, educational attainment, political influence, housing, health and civil rights of the Hispanic population of the United States. Most of the work is done by the individual councils and the State Board strives to support those councils and National also does the same.

Now back to my conversation with Charlene Albarran. Charlene has been very actively involved in helping the community both here and in Mexico. She is a very well spoken and professional individual.

The incumbent Chris Stewart in district 2 has missed voting 63 times which is very concerning to me. Chris sponsored zero bills that became law in 2015. I would be interested in attending a debate between the two to see both sides. LULAC is very interested in helping Hispanic people get registered to vote so they can protect their rights. The question to Chris and Charlene would be, how do you plan to help the Hispanic people of Utah? The question to Chris would be what will you do differently that you have done in the past? I read the report card for Chris Stewart comparing him to other representatives in several areas and I encourage everyone to do the same.

Some people vote straight ticket for republican or democrat rather than voting for the very best person. Charlene has been very involved in developing and running programs to help the homeless and because of this she will most likely catch flack or be accused of being a socialist. As she explained many of the programs that she has been involved with, her goal was not only to feed the poor and help them with housing but she has an overall long range goal to help them find work and become more educated so they can become productive members of society. I was very impressed with her attitude and her ideas. She came across as very professional and the type of a person that would be a good leader. I look forward to learning more about Charlene in the future and it looks like Chris will have a fight on his hands this time against a very worthy opponent.

Charlene became tired of waiting for a person to vote for that would make meaningful changes so she became that person.

Report card 2015 for Chris Stewart

Director Estatal de Utah Lulac Larry Love

English on top / Espanol abajo.

Larry and Lizeth Love

Larry and Lizeth Love

As State Director of Utah Lulac Larry Gene Love is very grateful for the opportunity to serve the good people of Utah.

What a privilege to be involved with such wonderful people in Utah Lulac and National LULAC.

Larry had the opportunity to be involved with both the immediate past president of LULAC (National) Margaret Moran and Roger Rocha the current LULAC President. Salvador Lazalde stepped down from the Director position last month due to other community service commitments and I appreciate all that I have learned from Salvador as Deputy Director and we appreciate all his service to LULAC and wish him the very best. Salvador is not leaving LULAC and will continue to be involved in his local counsel.

Como Director Estatal de Utah Lulac Larry Gene Love está agradecido por la oportunidad de servir las personas de Utah.

Que privilegio de estar involucrado con personas tan increíbles de LULAC.

Larry tuvo la oportunidad de estar con Margaret Moran Presidenta de LULAC anterior y también a trabajar con Roger Rocha el Presidente de LULAC National actual. Salvador Lazalde dejó su puesto como Director Estatal por otros compromisos de la comunidad y yo aprecio todo lo que he aprendido de él y todo su servicio a Utah Lulac y deseo lo mejor para el. Salvador no está dejando Lulac y va a continuar servir en su concilio local.

Professor Lowry Nelson LDS Letters

The glass is half full

Change your thoughts change your life.

Someone close to me asked me to read the letters from Doctor Lowry Nelson from 1947 to a mission president and he copied the LDS Prophets. He was being asked for his opinion on whether the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints should send missionaries into Cuba. The subject of race came up and letters were exchanged. Doctor Lowry was not only educated but he had world experience with many cultures, he loved many different people and races.

This individual may feel that God should reveal more to the prophets and apostles or that they should have more knowledge and truth than normal men and I can´t say that I disagree with that person and I do believe that the Apostles are very special men being called as special witnesses of Christ in these latter days. I read the conflicts of the apostles in the Bible and hear of conflicts even now and it does not make me feel like they don´t merit being apostles, on the contrary it makes me feel like there is hope for me to attain the celestial kingdom.

My mother worked with President Monson when he was in his twenties and she has stories of working with him. A few years ago my brother Dave was waiting for a haircut in a small Bountiful shop and President Thomas Monson walked in and they were able to spend over thirty minutes talking. My brother told president Monson, over fifty years ago you worked with my Mother Marilyn Love in the old Deseret Book Bindery and President Monson without even any hesitation said, before she married your Dad her name was Marilyn Gordon. He is truly an incredible man.

I have had the chance to shake some of the Apostles hands and on one occasion I got to play at a concert in the old Hotel Utah where the Joseph Smith building now stands. My close friend has shared several personal experiences with the prophets when he worked in Church security and it only confirms that they are special witnesses of Christ in these latter days.

I won´t try to justify the attitude of the church leaders at that time in 1947 and even quite a few years later although I will try to look at the situation from all sides. I respect the offices of the priesthood and marvel at how the Lord does his work through imperfect men here on earth. The Prophets are men, they are wonderful, service oriented men that dedicate their entire lives in the service of the Lord. The Lord does not make us change, it is a process.

The pervasive attitudes were just beginning to change and as I grew up in the 60s I still remember the derogatory things my father said about African American people. Interestingly enough we had some wonderful neighbors that helped me understand that race did not matter but feelings and people matter. You will find good people in any culture group in the world and you will also find people that are not so good in any group of people in the world.

In about 1969 Connie Kelly and I were in a small wading pool with our legs up on the side and I said ¨mom, why does Connie have a better tan than I do. When I was five years old I had not learned what race was yet although as I grew I learned more about life and people´s attitudes.

At a recent Bishop´s training last week an African American Bishop, well, actually a Black Bishop from the Caribbean gave the training and I have admired this man for quite some time. To hear his advice and testimony is an amazing thing compared to how things were just a few years ago. This wonderful man is now a Priesthood leader to many white people in this area and he loves everyone in his ward and serves with pleasure and diligence.

I was in the Canyon with my mother, sister and Jana Triniman in 1978 when the announcement came over the radio conference address letting us know that every worthy male member of the church would now be able to hold the priesthood. We were all so happy and excited. I remember that day very well. When we got home my Dad said he heard about the Church announcement and he said the only thing he liked about the Church was that it did not give the Priesthood to the blacks. My Dad was a good man although he still held on to old ideas and old ways of thinking. Many men and women actually believed that black people were inferior and this way of thought was throughout the US. It was not just Mormons that had these thoughts and beliefs although Mormons did try to find doctrinal reasons as to why they believed this was the case.

It is true the Joseph Smith ordained the first black Elder in the LDS Church. His name was Elijah Able. After Brigham Young took over the practice of ordaining Black men was stopped. Many reasons were given although none of them were recognized as actual doctrine. If you have not seen ¨No one knows my story¨ which includes stories of several black members of the Church I would recommend that you look it up and watch it.

I imagine how it must have been years ago being a leader in the Church, I try to understand how giving a black man the authority back then must have been frustrating for them to magnify their callings when peoples attitudes were what they were. Recently a man in my Stake said, my wife and I want to move out of the area because the Mexicans are ruining it here. After he said that I thought to myself, I hope you do move because the area might become a bit better when people like you are gone. This man is basically a good man with ingrained attitudes that have stayed with him throughout the years.

I am not saying that some of these types of attitudes don´t have some valid points behind them when it comes to crime statistics and such but the majority of Mexican families that I interact with are wonderful people, hardworking people and loving people. This month I will marry couple number 14 and my heart is becoming hispanic and the old saying that says you are what you eat means I am becoming Hispanic from the inside out.

I have read though so much anti Mormon doctrine and I used to write about it and I ceased doing so because I felt that I needed to channel my energy into uplifting things that would make me better and help others. Very few people want to actually read the 40 page essays that BYU professors have written on Polygamy or Blacks in the Priesthood much less my personal blogs about doctrine. For years I attended the FAIR conferences and paid for two day training sessions that went over many anti mormon questions and answers including things like DNA and the Book of Mormon people etc…

Doctor Lowry seemed to be a very loving and understanding man and when you read the letters the perception of the Church leaders being very closed is what people see. The Church leaders have grown and changed over the years and adapted to many changes including interracial marriage. When I was in high school I read a book that really helped open my eyes ¨Five Smooth Stones¨ by Anne Fairbairn. I may have spelled her name wrong but the book was a love story between a black man and a white girl. Many times we live our lives in what seems like a bubble. When we reach outside of the bubble and we begin to learn more about the world we grow and open our world view.

In 1979 I had the opportunity to go to Europe for a month in a Band and I was able to meet many new people and visit 8 countries and even Chicago and New York which were like new countries to me. When I went though basic training 2 years later in Alabama I was exposed to many more people with good and bad influences and I was able to open my mind even more.

I used to feel like I needed to defend the LDS Church, on my mission I learned how to look up scriptures and I was quite good at debating although I quickly learned that arguing did not help matters and most of the time the spirit would depart and I would be left alone so I stopped arguing and spent time explaining to people that really wanted to listen. Some Elders would used the canned response that all they needed to do was to pray about the Book of Mormon and if it was true then everything else was true. I look at that answer as a cop out so I did encourage them to pray although I would also spend time researching answers for people.

You see when someone reads something against the Church and they want to believe it, you are not going to convince them with facts and scripture quotes. Logic is not always the best tool. Many times we need to rely on the spirit. I have had so many profound spiritual experiences I could never deny the hand the Lord in this gospel. I have two family members that are ordained ministers of other faiths.

One spends much of his time and energy preaching against the Mormon Church while the other spend most of his time preaching about Jesus. The difference in their lives is very distinct. The one that spends his time on the negative is always complaining and has had a very difficult time in his family while the other is much more happy and teaches of Christ and gives testimony of Jesus at all times.

More than half of my family is Catholic and I have attended many meetings in many different Churches and I appreciate all of them and respect them.

I look at the doctrines of the Church, the experiences I have had with leadership and the leaders of the church, the spiritual experiences I have had in my life, the changes that have been happening and the issues of Gay Marriage, Blacks in the Priesthood, Science and the gospel and I still have a strong testimony. I still wish to remain a member, I still have a desire to continue paying tithing and supporting the work of the Lord. I currently serve as a Branch President and I love the people and I see the positive changes that can come to individuals and families when they join the Church for the right reasons.

Someone recently said to me….. how can you have read so much and learned so much about the church, be such an intelligent individual and still believe that the Church is true.

This individual believes that Mormons have all been fooled into thinking that the church is true and they are ignoring many blatant problems in the Church. He feels that people are wasting their lives with false doctrines.

It is very difficult to argue with faith since faith is such a personal thing. It would simplify my life if I were to quit the church, my old boss said I would get Sundays off and receive a ten percent raise. We laughed about this although when I analyze what the Church and what the gospel has done in my life I see the very positive power it has had in my life.

So I will be doing a few blogs about the Church which I will call One Question At A Time. With our youth, we need to keep it short and simple when we want them to spend time learning something or we loose them. Most people won´t take the time to read a blog this long so is it wasted time writing is the question. I love to write, I love to think thing through so for me it is not a waste.

I believe God does live, I can tell you that he loves each one of us. Jesus Christ is the Son of God and he did live on earth over 2000 years ago but he was killed and came back to life. He suffered for our sins that we might be forgiven when we accept him and strive to do what he has taught us. Jesus actually visited people in the americans after his resurrection and this is recorded in the Book of Mormon. When I regularly read the Book of Mormon my life seems to work out better, I gain answers, I am more patient and loving and it really has had a positive influence on my life.

I have friends that have left the Church because they no longer believe, they have left a life where service was paramount and now they do a have void. I suppose some people leave the church and do very positive things in their lives although I have seen many people that leave and turn bitter spending endless hours trying to convince others of the errors of the Church which ends up bringing much negativity into their lives.

I don´t believe the Catholic Church is the only true church although I don´t waste my time trying to convince my catholic family members and friends that they are wrong. I knew the Catholic Bishop of Utah before they transferred Bishop Wester and I admired him. I have 15 journals that are a mixture of doctrine, notes, spanish notes, goals and ramblings that I really should put on these blogs because I fear they will eventually get thrown into the trash. Things are becoming less and less important to me in my life now. I suppose it may have something to do with my age and experience.

I love my family and I hope and wish the very best for them and i love my fellowmen and also wish the best for them as well. I have been so very lucky to be involved in wonderful organizations and currently I serve as the Deputy Director of Utah LULAC and appreciate the opportunities that has bought into my life.

One question at a time.


Larry G. Love

Immigration options

Immigration is a HOT topic throughout the world and this article is not meant to anger anyone. Read the information, analyze the options and look up the actual statistics and then make a decision on how you feel about our immigration situation. Many people want to deport all those that are here without documents and that is one of the options. If you decide on that option then we need to make a plan and look at all the consequences of doing do. We need to consider the effects of taking any action before moving forward.

protesting causes conflict which may be needed

protesting causes conflict which may be needed

The issue is more complicated than most people understand. Let’s look at some facts you may not have thought of and then move toward something that would be reasonable.

Many times the truth is too boring to learn and hard to accept when complaining is easier. Arguments such as pro or against gay marriage, immigration, welfare issues, abortion, the death penalty and these arguments are written by one side or the other that leans too far one way so it bends the truth to their convenience. We may not like reality and what is happening may not be ideal but we deal with it. Most people really don’t care about the real issues. They want low prices and if Walmart uses child labor in other countries people may care alittle bit but not enough to buy elsewhere at a higher price and the same goes in this situation.

Professional tile installers in TX can make around $17 dollars an hour and make a living except people come across the border and do that same work for $5 dollars an hour undercutting the company that is insured, licensed and has professional installers that pay workers compensation etc….. The homeowners and general contractors want to keep the bottom line low so they can make or save money so they don’t care and someone ends up paying the price for it. This hurts the people that are trying to do things legally. So yes there are negative consequences to Americans for allowing undocumented people to work here but for the most part the US does not care and does not want to deport them all because it would cause an even larger economical mess.

All to often businesses use undocumented immigrants to do the work so they can undercut the competitors. In most cases these companies do not pay overtime, vacation or benefits to these worker and often they will pay below minimum wage. I personal know people that this is happening to. This issue is caused by us not by the undocumented immigrants.



Saying undocumented people get lots of free things like medical care that we as US Citizens don’t get and welfare is not true in most respects and when it comes to their children it is true because they are US Citizens. Many of the children qualify for free lunch and other programs and this is a drain on the system. If they go to the ER (many of them are too scared to go to the ER) they will not be refused medical attention if it is an emergency although one of my neighbors has a hernia and she was told two weeks ago to make an appointment with her doctor so no,the ER did not give her free care and they did send her a bill. Another neighbor who is undocumented has an infection in her leg and went to the Hospital and the bill was over $2,000 so now her foot is dark purple and she won’t go back because she is worried about the money and we have told her she could loose her foot but she is now curing herself with vinegar and honey.

Denying these US citizen children free lunch or the ability to attend school would only cause more issues later on when a higher percentage would end up in prisons. Denying undocumented children from getting an education is also a can of worms because long term consequences would create a set of uneducated people that would turn to crime since they could not legally work or be in school. These people are already in a class all on their own since they are leery to call the police even when they need to.

My other neighbors went to the ER and it was $1700 to put a couple of stitches in their daughters finger (They were making payments on that bill for months) so when she got burned they did not go to the ER when they should have because they were too worried about the money they came to my house. It is true that many undocumented people do not pay their medical bills and therefore the cost of medical care becomes higher for all of us. It is also true that many American Citizens do not pay their ER bills and that also makes the prices higher for those of us that do. I took my son to the ER and all they did was look at my son’s cut on his nose that I had already cleaned out and they did not clean it and they did not bandage it or do anything and they billed us over $600 just for the doctor to look at him less than 60 seconds. Oh, they did weigh him and take his blood pressure and make us wait several hours to be seen. ( I should have billed them for my time waiting)

It is also true that many of them do pay their bills and in full. I have several friends that pay their bills that are undocumented. One family has had 2 children and paid CASH for the doctor and hospital bills and got a discount because they paid CASH for the births. This same family has not accepted any welfare for the children at any time other than WIC for a short time when the husband was out of work. My wife was working 3 jobs and therefore did not qualify for welfare before we got married so there are many instances where they do pay their bills.

Saying they don’t pay taxes is also very misleading because the majority do pay taxes and in many forms. They pay for rent and house payments hence they are paying property taxes (which pays for education) , they pay gas tax, they pay SS tax (over 60% work using social security numbers even if they are false and the money still goes into the system but they don’t get it back) some of them work for under the table CASH (By the way that is OUR FAULT) sales tax is paid by all of them as well as many other taxes.

A friend of mine paid an unemployment policy for years and when he lost his job they would not pay him anything because he is undocumented. The same insurance company would not refund his payments and they were happy to take his money but would not pay out. When filling out the application he did not lie or mislead them in any way because he did not provide a social security number. I have a friend that bought two houses and rented one out. He used his ITIN tax number which was at that time a legal number to use to buy the homes. They currently can’t do this any more but before it was allowed. Most of them rent. Many of them own their own businesses and run them legally and pay taxes. That is the only way they can legally work if they are undocumented. I have another friend that lost his job and he had 3 months of savings so he took care of everything until he got another job. I have a neighbor that has $13,000 dollars in her daughters college account and she has been saving for years so her daughter will have a chance. This neighbor is worried that if she is deported the government will take the 13,000 and say she was selling drugs which would be a lie but none the less she is worried about it.

Undocumented people should get in line with the rest of those that apply legally. Well this sounds wonderful but for many of them there is no line to get into because no legal options exist. I had an immigration lawyer come and speak to those at my church and he gave an hour presentation, we handed out a straight talk sheet and then he answered questions for another hour. (He did not give out any business cards nor could he solicit business) They can apply for political asylum which is a very long shot since most of these applications are denied. They can apply for a U Visa if they have been assaulted (this application is also hard to get) you have to have the signature of the police chief and police reports and in most cases pictures taken by the police. Other than these options which most do not qualify for there are no other real options unless they have a direct family member that is a US Citizen or Resident.

Undocumented people bring in crime. Well this is also complicated because wherever poverty is, more crime exists and I would say that the majority of the people just want to work and provide for their families and help their children to have a better future and yet there are many of them that are involved in selling drugs and other criminal activities. It costs lots of money to house these people and keep them in prison for the full sentence and so they are let out early much of the time. Many times they are deported and then come back again. We need to be hard on crime. Sadly many of the Hispanics that are involved in criminal activity are the ones that were born here in the country in poverty and took the easy way to make money. Most of the undocumented people don’t want any interaction with the police so they stay under the radar as much as possible. A drunk Hispanic hit my son’s car from behind and he never paid back anything and he did not have insurance. These are the type of people that mess it up for the ones that want to be the best that they can.

1. Many of them don’t have any documents therefore they can’t produce them for inspection. Should they be documented? YES Should they have to show documents? YES. If they don’t have them because they came from Mexico or other countries what should be done about it? We should deport them. Ok what happens to their 6 kids they are going to leave behind? Concentrating on deporting criminals is a good idea but half of those that Obama has deported have not had a criminal record. Coming across the border without permission is a civil infraction of a federal law. If they are caught in the act it is a bit different, if they are not caught then it is a different matter. It is similar to a policeman giving a J walking ticket to someone days later with no witnesses. It should not be like this but it is. If they are deported and come back a second time one or two ten year bars may be placed upon them and they can be charged with a criminal charge but most of the time it is just the civil one but they come back anyway because companies are paying them to do the work.

An undocumented person I know has the following documents with them:

Consulate ID – Official document from Mexico
Current Mexican Passport
Current Mexican Driver’s License
Current Birth Certificate (The new ones have to have the special seal)
Utah Driver Privilege card.

This guy has more official documents than many documented people I know yet when his car got towed they would not let him use any of those documents to get the car out of impound but had to find someone with a drivers license not a privilege card to get it out of impound. No he was not drunk and did not get into an accident. His window had been broken and things stolen out of the vehicle so the cop gave him a ticket because he had plastic over the window and it was winter. (My window got broken as well and I also had plastic until I got a new window) but no cops pulled me over for that. There is more to the story but needless to say undocumented people get treated differently than others.

It is wrong although it is a reality that we are having to deal with. It is a fact that they should not come into the US illegally or undocumented but it is happening. The guesstimate is around 11 Million although some figures are higher around 18 million. Deporting them all if no more entered would take over 20 years and cause all sort of other issues and problems. Most Hispanic families have more than the normal 1 or 2 children so by 2050 there may be more Hispanics than white people in the US which is another possible reality. In Utah the overall Hispanic population is about 16% and in Salt Lake City about 22% and in my neighborhood it is over 40% Hispanic.

That is why a program where we actually fingerprint them all and issue IDs would be beneficial. The fear is that this could lead to a national ID that everyone would have to have is scary. This would mean Citizens as well as non-citizens would need this ID. We can’t just stop someone for being brown can we now? We have Citizens that are born in Puerto Rico that are full US Citizens that don’t speak English (Many of them older people) so we cannot use the fact that they don’t speak English to test people either because it is discrimination. Some of the right wing christian conservatives believe this ID program would be the mark of the beast spoken of in the Bible, others feel it would infringe on the rights of the States to issue the State IDs and control them. It would lead to tracking everyone on a more complicated basis than we already are using.

In many respects the Government likes to complain about undocumented people but they don’t really want to solve the problem because as it stands our construction, food industry, hotel industry and many other services are running smoothly because of undocumented people so changing the way that things are would make prices go up drastically. I know my 21 year old son and my 19 year old daughter refuse to take jobs cleaning bathrooms or digging holes.

2. You can’t mop up the floor until you turn off the tap that is running right onto the floor. Currently it is like we are mopping the floor with more and more water being dumped on the floor and it is out of hand. It is true the influx of those coming across undocumented has gone down although that is true because of the issues with the economy. When the economy gets stronger, undocumented border crossings will increase.

Republicans don’t want to give up any ground and democrats don’t have the power to pass immigration reform alone. It would not be fair to allow undocumented people to be US Citizens when many people that applied legally still have not been let into the country but we could FINE them, give them work permits and at least know who they are, where they are and have some control whereas right now we don’t have any control at all.

Building fences is not stopping these people because they have tunnels that are constantly being dug every time one is covered up because it is a business where they pay 4500 or more to be brought over. There are actually trucks built just for this purpose that pull up and put ladders up so they can go over the fences. We can spend billions on fences and it will not stop the leak. There are more people that come in legally and overstay their VISAs, the actual figures that are coming over the border have been reduced except for the children.

Telling them that they should apply legally is all well and good but people from Mexico have no way to apply legally unless they are related directly to a US Citizen such as a brother, sister, Mother, Father, Son or Daughter. Even when they are directly related the wait time to get a visa is years not months. If you are married the time is about a year, if it is your mother or father the wait time can be 10 years or more, if it is a brother it can be 14 plus years for them to get a visa. The child first needs to turn 21 and then apply for their parents and then the wait many years from that point.

3. Looking at all the factors is so important. Rather than just treating the symptoms lets look at the root cause. Some say, problems in central and south American don’t concern us. Fine, have that attitude although it does concern us because it is happening and we are dealing with it. Corruption and poverty in other countries cause suffering and it is spilling into the US.

4. The cost of living in a small town in Guatemala is $600 per month and you have your basic needs taken care of. Unfortunately the wage is about $60 per month unless you are among the few that work 6 days a week at a banana plantation that pays $200 per month then you would need 3 members of your household to work there instead of 10 making $60. Most of those people live below the poverty level so when they hear that their uncle can help them come to the US they jump at the chance and the uncle lends them the 4500 and they come over into a land that is taking advantage of their cheap labor, not paying them benefits, not paying them overtime and many of them work for years like that.

They work for companies that do not use E-Verify by buying a social security card for $100 and then they contribute into the fund but they don’t draw out because the money (billions) goes into the mismatched fund. When they work at a place for a few months and they get a letter that says there is an issue with the SS # they simply change jobs and start the process over again. Many of them live in small one bedroom apartments with 4 or 6 people in each room because it is much better than it was in their country. Am I trying to justify it? NO It is just how it is. To solve the issues we have to not just treat the symptoms but the root of the problem or the actually reasons for the sickness and we really don’t want to do that. A large part of the problem deals with supply and demand. WE WANT CHEAP LABOR so WE hire them. Companies hire them on a regular basis and the DEMAND is such that they keep coming in. If those companies would hire unemployed AMERICANS and not hire undocumented people then unemployment would go down but the unemployed do not want to do those jobs nor will they work in those conditions without benefits for such low wages.

5. It may not be right but reality is that these people are having children and according to the current laws and constitution as it is interpreted by every State in the Union the children born in the US to undocumented people are US Citizens. If we deport the parents we cannot deport the children therefore millions more children would become wards of the state and additional funds would be needed to support them. We are talking billions of dollars not just millions. If the federal government or the state government were to support the 19 million plus children at a conservative $1000 per child (This is higher for foster car when all levels are added) Then per year you are looking at massive figures.

If you figure the cost of caring for one child at a low figure of $1,000 per child per month it is $12,000 per year which is low compared to the actual figures but $1,000 would feed them and buy them clothes.

To have the state or the federal government take care of 100,000 children it would cost 1.2 billion per year

To have the state or the federal government take care of 1 million children it would be ten times as much or 12 billion per year

Two hundred and twenty eight billion (228 billion) to take care of 19 million kids per year assuming each undocumented family had and average of only three children per household or 6 million couples but the average is higher on the families but many of the undocumented people are single men so the figure on the children would be lower than the real average on the children per household.

When you are paying to care for these children over the next 18 years the figure exceeds 4 Trillion dollars. Who will pay for this? Right now the parents are paying for their food, shelter and yes the government helps with the education but you do need to consider that with the collection of property taxes the undocumented people are paying part of that cost and if we deport them the government will have to pick up the whole cost.



I suppose you could try this, also these people could not be expected to take their children back into such conditions when many of the children don’t even speak the language well enough to get by. There are those even as I write this that want to change the constitution so that the requirements to be a US Citizen are different so at least one of the parents would need to be a citizen instead of allowing anyone born in the country to be a US Citizen. They want to change it so a Mexican Citizen that had a child while on vacation in California would be a Mexican Citizen instead of a US Citizen. Until this change is made we have to deal with reality. Most likely that change will not occur looking at the historical changes in the constitution.

Many countries like Guatemala charge US Citizens to live there if their stay is extended. This puts an additional hardship the families that they could not meet. It is like $15 per month per child which seems reasonable to us but when you only make $60 to $100 a month and you have 3 US Citizen children that adds up to $45 per month almost your entire wage so it is not reasonable and could not be collected.

Since most of these families send money on a regular basis back to their countries it has helped the other countries and their families live, and without that money being sent but sending the people back instead with no job will also devastate many other countries. So looking at all the factors it would be a ripple effect whereas right now the Government separates families all the time and the problems caused don’t seem so grave but they are. The emotional problems we cause when this is done is overwhelming. Sending a criminal back is one thing but recently the US deported a mother with no criminal record and she left four children under 18 here to care for each other. The youngest was autistic and 4 years old still in diapers. The state did not do anything with the family but the local church helped out. The mother came across illegally again as soon as she was sent back to Mexico and began running her taco cart and taking care of her family again.

If we deport in larger numbers an influx of millions of people into Mexico, Central and South American would be devastating to their economies as well as ours. Mexico has high unemployment now and imagine them getting millions of people at once that had no jobs. Here in the US costs would skyrocket in all industries. Some say it would level out after a while and yet others say it would send us into a depression. There was a rumor of an immigration rate in Wendover NV a couple of years ago and that basically shut the whole town down. Hotels did not get cleaned, food did not get made and everything stopped.

The implementation of E-Verify has made life harder for many undocumented and it has slowed the flow a bit because it is harder to get work but when it comes down to it E-Verify only compares the social security number and birthdate it does not verify a fingerprint or eye scan so it has it’s problems. I have a friend that is using his Dad’s number and has been working with it for years. Employers that don’t use E-Verify only ask for a copy of the social security card and their drivers license so in the past and even currently they just file these items and when the social security administration comes back with a mismatch or issue the person goes elsewhere and the process begins again. Without implementing a FINE and a REAL ID problem with fingerprints, pictures and eyescans we are just putting a bandaid on a problem that will continue forever until real changes are made. False ID is easy to get and in Utah it is harder to get since the operation was shut down recently but you can buy an ID in California now for around $400 each. It used to cost around $100.

So, do these people have it easy because we give them handouts when they get here? Far from it, a recent family I know that just got here from Guatemala is suffering living with 10 people in an apartment. They accepted min wage jobs with no benefits and they are working two jobs. The children are in school (3) and the older one is not getting English and having a really hard time. The younger ones are ok but they are not getting free anything. Since none of their children are US Citizens they don’t qualify for any of the Government programs such as WIC or Welfare. They cannot get food stamps and the children do not qualify for government grants or scholarships. They don’t have a bank account so everything is done with CASH making it more difficult and more risky to do everyday things. They recently went to immigration to apply for asylum which most likely will be denied but they are doing it anyway. They were caught while crossing the border and the border patrol detained them for a few days and then let them go and they have dates that they must appear at court. (Well they could move and try to disappear which is a possibility) She has a ankle monitor on awaiting her appointment.

6. So should we do nothing as we are currently doing? The Status Quo is not working. Obama has deported more undocumented people than any other president so we are doing something. Jason Chafitz told me that there are several sections of the border that are not being patrolled and the drug cartels use these areas to bring in drugs without fear of interference. They are not patrolled because they don’t allow vehicles in those areas so we don’t destroy the flora and fauna (moss and other natural resources) in the mean time drug cartels use this to bring in people and drugs and Jason wants to change that because currently he told me the border patrol has to put in a request 10 days ahead of time and they have to go in on horseback. We can’t just open the border and ignore our laws but we can’t shoot people crossing like some other countries do. I have been a State and Local Delegate and I have been able to talk to several Senators and Representatives. Most of them say they care, they say they want to make changes yet when it comes down to voting it’s not happening. Many of them are not being reasonable so they get gridlock because they either want to deport them all or be too easy on them and they are not coming to an agreement of what should and can be done to help the US and the people.



A. If they don’t have ID when they are pulled over undocumented people are given several tickets and arrested and printed so they don’t get away with this one. In Utah they can get a driver’s privilege card by presenting ID from their country whether here legally or not. Most of those I know get car insurance and avoid any reason for the police to get involved with their life.

B. If they use a Credit card they need to show ID as well just like you and I do. Most of the time they pay with CASH or a money order or a prepaid card using the PIN like a debit card. I don’t show ID when I use my debit card.

C. When they show up for a doctors appointment they have to pay and they need to show some sort of ID the fact that they don’t have permission to be in the country does not mean they don’t have ID because many of them have an ID from their country but some don’t. I have performed 12 marriage ceremonies in the last 2 years and the State does not require that they be here legally to get married.

D. This is funny because everyone has to have ID to fill out credit card or loan applications and when they don’t they can’t get these. I just took my 15 year old in to get a bank account and he had to show ID, birth certificate, passport etc….The neighbor that has the infection does not have a bank account, no utilities in her name and no ID so her life is much more difficult in many respects. She does not have a credit card because of it. She suffers in many ways living in a basement where conditions are horrible. Some of them could go back to Mexico or another country although many of them can’t. My other in law who lives in Guatemala told us the other day that once you turn 40 your done. No one wants to hire you unless you have some sort of education and for most people in the small towns they don’t have much more than an elementary education if that.

E. Insurance, college applications, donating blood, getting a boarding pass for the airlines also require you show ID whether you are undocumented or not. Undocumented people can attend college but much of the time they have to pay out of state or non resident rates, they have to provide ID but they do not qualify for most scholarships and it is much harder for them to get loans as well. So they are not exempt from providing ID. If it were that easy I would just tell people I was undocumented and get loans, money etc…. but it is not.

Republicans don’t want to budge on many points and democrats don’t want give up any ground either and that makes for a perfect situation to get nothing done on the matter. Recently Congress and the current senate were listed as the least effective ones that we have ever had. Well they did name some courthouses if that counts as getting work done.

Obama when he first entered office had the perfect situation to pass immigration reform and he said he would in his first term and he did nothing of the sort. He had congress and the senate on his side and now he does not. He used the excuse that he had to deal with the economy so immigration reform was not his priority. Now Obama is using executive orders to deal with immigration because the Republicans and Democrats can’t negotiate together. Currently the speaker is suing Obama for using the executive order improperly but Obama says it is because congress and the senate are not doing anything so it is mess.

We have lots of laws that are not being enforced so do we need more laws? Obama did increase the border patrol almost four fold in many areas but in several areas there is no patrol at all and drug cartels use these areas to bring over people and drugs. I am not big on conspiracy theories but it makes me wonder what is happening and if someone is in bed with a certain person or persons. Should we go down into these countries and clean house to help get rid of the corruption and drug cartels? Is that our responsibility? If we don’t do it and those countries don’t do it the root of the problem will still exist and as long as we offer the jobs they will continue to come. If we don’t keep hiring them they will get the word out and many of them will go back to their countries and the word will get around and the flow will stop coming over. Right now when a person that was making $60 a month or a $100 a month can come here and make ten times that amount, live with friends, send 300 home each month they are happy and will continue to work as long as Americans offer them the work.

Implementing the ID program will eventually be a must because it is out of control and all Americans will have to have a federal ID but that is being put off for obvious reasons and pressure on both sides.

Emails and messages with what appears to be a clear message about “illegals” never gives the entire story and misleads people into getting upset. One that I read says that they are getting welfare checks, social security checks and retirement benefits and they are undocumented and that is simply not true. A child that was a US Citizen that was disabled could be getting SSI or a benefit and they could get WIC or welfare for their children but those payments are very limited compared with the exaggerated amounts listed in the messages to upset the public. Spreading messages like this is not productive without offering solutions that will help fix the problem. In our neighborhood we have started programs to help educate people on the law and help them take advantage of the classes to learn English and we are promoting the program that exists to help them start their own businesses legally and pay taxes the legal way. This type of action is solution based. Getting upset about something you cannot change will just make you more upset with congress and the senate.

Let’s try to be reasonable. Here is a true story that I want you to think about and this man is a good friend of mine.

Juan came here 16 years ago with two children that were born in Mexico. They came with a temporary visa to go on vacation and they never left. (Much harder to get now than before) They had 2 more children here that were born in the US that are American Citizens. Juan and his wife bought two homes using his ITIN number (Individual Federal Tax ID number) and rents one of the homes out. He pays property tax on both homes. Juan works 2 jobs and his wife stays home (unusual since more mothers work as well) They are not hiding but lawyers have told them not to apply for anything because they will be turned down and it could trigger deportation orders so they are a bit worried because of the children’s DACA applications but they were assured that those are two different government agencies, and that they don’t communicate with each other very often except in extreme circumstances. USCIS and ICE.

Now Juans daughter that is 19 has applied for DACA (Obamas plan to give a temp visa to children brought here illegally) Juans son has also applied for this program. The other two children are younger and still in school. Juan’s daughter is getting married soon and she is enrolled in Salt Lake Community College. She will be getting married to a US Citizen so that will allow her to stay in the US. Juan still works 2 jobs. When he was in Mexico the family was having an extremely hard time making ends meet and they heard about life in the US and took the risk. In seven years the fourteen year old will be twenty one and can submit an I-130 petition for both parents and his brother and sister and then the wait will most likely be 14 years plus after that before they hear back to get the family members residency. Juan is 48 so he will be around 69 when the application can be approved. Really he took the risk to give his children a better life as most people would do. Unlike my wife that lived in a tiny town, Juan lived right in Mexico City and his daughter was much more likely to be sexually abused and assaulted there than here and the same goes for his wife. If you ask Juan if he would do it again he will say yes in a heartbeat. If you ask him if he is breaking the law he will tell you yes, but he feels he is justified to protect his family and provide for them. Should there be limits as to how many people we can allow into the country? Sure we should have reasonable limits but the approved allotted visa quotas have not been updated in years and the figures are way too low. Would Juan have had a legal way to come into the country applying legally or getting on a list? No, there is a lottery but especially if you are Mexican your chances are much lower and if you have a Million dollars and come to start a business or if you are in a profession that is in demand like an Engineer you have a shot but if not most of the legal ways to come are not available to you.

Larry is the current Deputy Director of LULAC for the State of Utah and serves as an unpaid pastor of an Hispanic Church. Larry has been a State and Local Delegate and been involved in local civic activities such as Scouts and currently teaches Spanish CERT classes for Salt Lake City.

After major disasters work your plan

Los niños deben tener sus kits tambien

Los niños deben tener sus kits tambien

When a major disaster occurs there are things that we should have done beforehand to mitigate the problems such as getting CERT trained, having 96 hour kits prepared and ready, having heavy items stored low and light items stored high, having cabinets and other furniture secured to the walls so they won’t fall, having child locks installed on the cabinets so dishes won’t fall on the floor, having your shoes under the bed and ready so glass won’t be in them, having several roller bandages ready to stop the bleeding, getting first AID training for the whole family, having an out of state contact that will expect your call so when your son or daughter who lives 20 miles away calls your out of state contact that person can tell you that they are ok and tell your son that you are ok. (It is harder to call in state than out of state at the time of a disaster)

1. Check yourself and your family for injuries and treat with first aid.

2. Check your home quickly for gas leaks and only shut the gas off if it is leaking. You may need to shut the water or electric service off as well so know where the shut off are. Depending on your home you may have already put on your safety equipment.

2. Put on your safety gear such as goggles, hard hat, good boots, gloves. In other disasters a major problem was volunteers becoming the victims because they did not have the proper safety equipment. Don’t put yourself in danger because if you become hurt you cannot help anyone else. If you cannot handle a situation go get help. Don’t go in alone always use the buddy system.
3. Check on your neighbors and then report to your neighborhood meeting area to report and receive additional assignments. This is where block captains will report for their 10 homes they have checked on and this is where they can ask for additional assistance as needed. If you have not had this set up in your area yet, contact your city and ask about CERT and neighborhood watch and block captains and you can become involved to help with this plan. Many areas already have pre-printed maps so assignments can be given out to check each home. Have fire extinguishers ready to put out small fires.

Salt Lake City CERT website

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Peak Alarm has their own disaster plan that is an integral part of our operation. Peak has data backups out of state and every night data is transferred from one building to another so in case of a major disaster all the account information will not be lost and the central station can continue to operate.

Alarms will go off all over the City and or State with AC failures (power failures), fires, floods and so on.

Understand that in a major disaster emergency authorities are not going to show up to the neighborhoods because police, fire and medical will be responding to large buildings, schools and hospitals first. For the first few days the people will be on their own and that is where CERT comes in. Community Emergency Response Teams (Training)

Many clubs, businesses, service organizations, neighborhood groups and churches also have emergency plans in place. They have sat down beforehand and brainstormed what will be needed to help prepare, mitigate and to help after something has occurred when the city, state and federal authorities have not responded yet. Start your own plan today with your group, business, neighborhood or church. Get CERT trained and do something before anything happens.

SLC also offers CERT training in Spanish. Both the English and the Spanish courses cover the same FEMA material that you will find in any CERT training class. Some of the modules are: Disaster First Aid. (6 hours), Cribbing (learning how to lift heavy objects off of someone that is trapped safely), CERT organization and delegation, Light Search and Rescue and fire suppression, terrorism (CERT does not respond to terrorism although you can be observant and report to the proper authorities), Disaster Psychology and much more.

Larry Love new Deputy State Director of Utah Lulac

My beautiful wife and I

My beautiful wife and I

The League of United Latin American Citizens

Larry Love was elected as the new Deputy State Director of The League of United Latin American Citizens in Salt Lake City June 6, 2015. Salvador Lazalde is the current State Director.

Some of the Priorities of Lulac are: Civic Participation, Civil Rights, Economic Empowerment, Education, Health, Housing, Immigration, Public Service, Technology, Veterans Affairs and Lulac also has Deputy Directors for the youth, young adults, Elderly and Veterans.

Lulac is the oldest and largest Hispanic organization of it’s type in the Nation.

Roger Rocha past National Treasurer was in attendance. Salvador Lazalde is the State Director

Keith J. Atkinson State Chaplain for Utah Lulac was also in attendance.

Larry is a professional Spanish Medical Interpreter, CERT FEMA Instructor for Salt Lake City teaching Emergency Response Team Training in Spanish and English. Larry owns his own business and has been in the Commercial Fire and Security Industry for the past 20 years and currently works at Peak Alarm as a Commercial Fire and Intrusion Consultant. Larry Love also serves as a lay minister for the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints with a Hispanic Unit which has over 400 members. Larry has been involved in community affairs for several years now including immigration and human rights issues.